狮入羊口

首先回答题目中的问题，答案是：因为这部电影让我确确实实认识到，在美国这样一个民主国家，接受高等教育的大学生们，是如何面对战争、政治这些在那样一个言论自由国度里虽不敏感却很沉重的话题。

美国大学中的三教九流各式人物形形色色，也跟国内的大学教育一样。翘课、泡妞等等。我所能看到的区别，在于他们面对政治上的腐败和虚伪，以及战争本身的邪恶，却真心的面对和想要努力做出改变。同时，愤青在美国社会里同样存在，比如说年轻的主角Todd Hayes，因为对国会、议员、政治的失望而不再出席自己的专业课。

首次听说外国设有“Political Science”这个专业，如果按照国内的思路，一定会以马哲、毛概、邓论、仨代表、和谐之类的作为专业课进行填鸭式的教育吧。

对于美国高等学府的学生来说，他们在一个自由的国度里，需要寻求个人信仰与国家大义、社会责任的平衡，比如关心全球局势，推行民主的想法在他们看来是真正需要思考的问题。在这样一个永久性“经商热”的国家，大部分人在毕业后会因为追求高收入而选择进入商学院或法学院。从完全的私有制中挣更多的钱、买大房子，从而证明自己的价值。

而Professor Stephen Malley眼中少有具有potential的学生，是那些敢于独立思考，不偏向于主流媒体，同时敢于维护自己的思想，并为之奋斗的年轻人。成长到了这个阶段，能有良师悉心指导，可能是最为幸运的事了。写到这里又想到《An Inconvenient Truth》里Al Gore的大学导师，严谨的科学态度使他受益无穷，而导师必其心力所投入的研究后来也使得Gore投身环保，为全球变暖问题四处奔走。

想到这里，不由得感慨，像美国这样一个多元化的自由社会，一些积极向上的思潮一直都是占据主流，真理越辩越明，一个讲究言论自由、信仰自由的国家里，仍然可以做到这一点，不得不称为人类的幸运，相比之下，一个丝毫不顾人类历史发展趋势、施行填鸭式教育的独_裁社会，只能衍生一系列极为扭曲的社会现象。

关于成长，是自己最近思考得最多的话题。以前曾非常羡慕国内所谓名牌高校所能提供的教育，然而在接触了一些人之后，却开始庆幸自己当初没有近距离的接受这种洗脑式的意识形态灌输，缺乏独立思考能力的人，无异于行尸走肉。在最近从上层听来的话里面，不止一次的被灌输“这个社会也就这样”类似的话语，而且相当自然，我不仅要怀疑，这是为什么呢？如果可以选择的话，我选择远离这些已被洗过脑的高材生，选择捍卫自己的独立思想。

新东方老师说，我们要成为影响世界的人，我不禁要问自己：没有反省的能力或习惯，坚持唯我正确的一个民族和政权下诞生的教育产品，如何能够去影响世界，怕是会更多的被世界影响而继续改造吧？

从大学未毕业的那段时间，在豆瓣上的发言被指“五_毛”，现在的言论却会被指责为“美分”了，不愿正视自己的错误、不肯反省、悔过，我们被灌输了千年的狗屁孔子仁义之说，还要被当权者们利用多久？

这部电影结构清晰、很容易看懂，而在三个场景轮流切换镜头，看似遥不可及实际却息息相关。情节本身设计的是十分紧凑的，剧透一下这三个场景：
   1，国会山庄的议员Jasper Irving与ANX记者Janine Roth的one-on-one appintment，将阿富汗的军事行动向公众公开，以转移对伊拉克战争持续拖延、死亡人数不停上升的注意力，争取选票；
   2，大学里一个因对政治失望而自暴自弃的学生Todd Hayes在学期结束后，与Professor Stephen Malley碰面，讨论该学期的最终成绩；
   3，阿富汗战场上，Jasper Irving的主张的军事行动始末，而作为Professor Stephen Malley曾经的学生，主动参战却在这场失败的军事行动中丧身沙场。

在第一次看这部电影的时候，觉得Tom Cruise是这部电影的亮点，于是毫不犹豫给了五星，精听了好几个月的原声之后，才注意到Robert Redford这个老狐狸，这部电影中他既是导演又是主演，整体情节的把握、音乐、台词以及电影背后所表达的内容、思想等等都让我佩服的五体投地，这才是这部电影五星的真正原因。

精听这部电影的初衷是着迷于Tom Cruise的标准美式发音，以及巧妙的政治手腕和对记者的应答技巧，摘录部分经典问答如下：
Your position affords you the luxury of that opinion. Mine does not.It is my responsibility, it's part of my job description to protect the American people.

OK. Let's... let's play this out.We walk, and Afghanistan reverts back to the Taliban. Only now the Taliban has metastasised into something more vicious and potent because they're now 2 and 0 versus the superpowers. They'd butcher people who voted, who were stupid enough to put their faith in our word. Call it not only the end of hope for millions of Afghans but the end of American credibility, the end of America as a force for righteousness in the world. When we're forced to go back in a couple of years - quote me on this - we'll square off against a shattered Iraq, a hopeless Afghanistan and a nuclear Iran. How many troops are we gonna need then? I guarantee you'll be adding some zeros.

-What were your estimates?
-What I can say is that this strategy has patience and determination at its core.It ensures that it puts our fighting men in spots where they can kill the enemy, so that we can then go about rebuilding that country.

We made mistakes. Colossal mistakes that should never be forgotten. But six years ago, who could have known what to do or when to do it after watching ourjets fly into our buildings? Do you remember how petrified we were at what our enemies might do for an encore? And how all at once everything was at risk? Families, friends, the kindergartens... the rivers and bridges, nuclear plants. Do you remember how terror coloured that next morning in shades we'd never seen? And tens of thousands have died since because of that fear, and the mistakes it inspired. But the question I'm left with, the question that keeps me up at night, because I have to answer it, is what do we do now?


电影结尾的一段亮点，当Janine Roth从电视台里出来，钻进出租车，内心委屈于自己迫于生活而对政治力量作出的让步时，车子刚好经过国会山庄，然后是一片墓地。五颜六色的树林里，灿烂的阳光照耀下的，却是触目惊心的的一排又一排墓地，那一个个墓碑下面，曾经是一个个鲜活的生命，他们为了国家、为了理想而献出生命，却丝毫没有意识到这种付出本身是否值得，仅仅只是作为某个政治家的政治资本，成了牺牲品。此时绝美的场景和沉郁的配乐，在Janine眼里更显得落寞和悲哀，潸然泪下，这一幕，深深的印在脑海里，引发对战争、人性、政治的多方面思考。

最后，还是摘录一段台词，作为我给这部五星电影打上“成长”标签的说明：

Here's my last bit, so bear with me. The decisions you make now, can't be changed but with years and years of hard work to redo it. And in those years you become something different. Everybody does as time passes. You get married, you get into debt. But you're never gonna be the same person you are right now. And promise and potential... It's very fickle. And it just might not be there any more.
All I'm saying is that you're an adult now. And the tough thing about adulthood is that it starts before you even know it starts, when you're already a dozen decisions into it. But what you need to know, no lifeguard's watching any more. You're on your own. You're your own man, and the decisions you make now are yours and yours alone from here until the end.

「The Military part has to come first why?
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Because only after we've eradicated the enemy can we then get down to the true work of keeping this new democracy breathing.
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So it's basically kill people to help people.」


「I'd like to see Bin Laden dead and gone as much as anybody, but I just don't understand how you cannot want to look at the past, not think it's critical.」


「We both put our fighting men at risk. Now, I've admitted my mistakes. When will you? You know, in a sense, we're on the same team. We're team-mates. We both have a responsibility. You've already sold the war. Now, I'm asking you to help me sell the solution.」


「If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness. — Theodore Roosevelt」


「Did I like what they did? No. Did I agree with it? No. In fact, it broke my heart. That doesn't mean I don't revere the reasons. They believed the best way to change things in this country was to go fight for it.」


「The best way to double the size of the problem is just to turn your back on it.」


「World War I, German soldiers wrote poems about the bravery of British grunts, admired them, almost as much as they laughed at the British high command who wasted those same grunts by the hundreds of thousands. A German general wrote: "Nowhere else have I seen such lions led by such lambs." Christ, that statement
is so dead-on right now. These starched collars that started this war, that are running it now, nowhere near the best and the brightest, not even in the same galaxy. They're the ones that, when some of our men are blown to bits in the middle of a gun battle, say shit like, "The enemy may bloodied our nose, but we're learning from mistakes."」


「How do we know you're going to get it right this time? You know, people are very mistrustful. After 9/11, we had the whole world on our side. Here we are six years later, stumbling through one of the worst times ever to be an American.」


「They bank on your apathy, they bank on your wilful ignorance. They plan strategies around it. They try to figure out how much they can get away with because of it.」


「What good is a $90,000 Benz if there's not only not enough gas in the tank but the streets and highways are decaying to the point of becoming Third World? If all your rants about Congress and politics are true, if things are really bad, as bad as you say they are, when thousands of American troops are dead and more are dying everyday probably as we speak, you tell me, how can you enjoy the good life? Rome is burning, son, and the problem is not with the people that started this. They're past irredeemable. The problem's with us. all of us. who do nothing, who just fiddle, who try to manoeuvre around the edges of the flame. And I'll tell you something, there are people out there, day to day, all of the world, that they're fighting to make things better.
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You think it's better to try and fail than fail to try? But what if you end up in the same place?
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At least you did something.」



「What happened to you, Howard? Time was you would take a punch at anybody if you thought it was justified. You know, you were good once. You can't leave me hanging out here by myself. You just can't do that to Wrong. you expected me to turn in a tidy time line. If we don't do this, who's gonna do it? This is the job! These politicians, these journalists, everybody that says: "Oh, well, if we'd known then what we know now..." It's bullshit! It's bullshit. It was all right there. We knew it, if we had bothered to connect the dots. But we didn't, did we? We just rolled over, right?」



「The decisions you make now, bud, can't be changed but with years and years of hard work to redo it... And in those years you become something different. Everybody does as the time passes. You get married, you get into debt... But you're never gonna be the same person you are right now. And promise and potential... It's very fickle, and it just might not be there anymore.
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Are you assuming I already made a decision? And also that I'll live to regret it?
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All I'm saying is that you're an adult now... And the tough thing about adulthood is that it starts before you even know it starts, when you're already a dozen decisions into it. But what you need to know, Todd, no Lifeguard is watching anymore. You're on your own. You're your own man, and the decisions you make now are yours and yours alone from here until the end.」

       在看完《狮入羊口》的凌晨十二点躺上床，毫无睡意。影片的三条线索六个人物在脑海里来回倒腾，勇敢无畏与狡黠逃避，理想主义与犬儒，政客嘴脸与媒体立场，刻画得如此现实鲜明，发人深省。我和水冰一致高呼这是一部难得的好片，疑惑豆瓣6.5的超低评分，直到浏览影评看到“我当然是暗示了，其中不排除一个犬儒主义者对这部影片的很生理的、直觉的、自然的排异反应”，深以为然。
       但兴奋并非辗转难眠的唯一原因。片中两名来自“第三世界”社会底层的大三学生在讲台上笨拙答辩自认为成熟精明的同班同学们的傲慢质疑，最终以两张征兵入伍令让所有人闭嘴。对此教授与消极的托德之间有一段对话，教授：我不赞同他们自愿入伍的决定，但我尊重他们做出这决定的动机。托德：因为他们是肾上腺素派？教授：不，是无畏，虽然害怕但依然坚持走下去的无畏，这是真正的勇气。在参议员艾尔文针对阿富汗贸然推动的新的军事行动中，这两名因错误情报陷入塔利班武装组织包围圈的理想青年，在苟且偷生与体面死去之间，再次郑重地选择了后者。在精明市侩的犬儒者眼里，或许他们too young too naive，但又如何？他们敢大声说出并践行自己的理想，你们敢吗？
       在患有流行性犬儒病的世界里，有太多的托德。他们曾经好奇心旺盛，正义感强烈，对生活和未来充满热情。但现如今，历经世事的他们似乎失去了原有的兴趣，不再发表旗帜鲜明的观点，逐渐沉默漠然。不出意外的话，托德们会很快在润物细无声中悄然完成从愤青到犬儒的褪变。片中的托德很幸运，他出了意外，理想主义者的教授诲他不倦：“罗马在燃烧，孩子，问题不在放火的人身上，他们已经不可救药，问题在我们身上，我们所有人，我们有的袖手旁观，有的毅然寻欢作乐，还有的趁火打劫”。
       我没有片中托德的辩才，但我明明就是托德。曾经那么随意挂在嘴上的豪言壮志早已深藏，面对潜规则不会再有零秒启动的出离愤怒，畏手畏脚谨言慎行。我不想把这些改变归咎于职业和为了生存，虽然从未对人袒露过，但我为这样的自己感到羞愧。这一切在这里都是其次，我想说的是，我也有一位如片中教授一样的精神导师，这部电影便是他的推荐。他是我将近三十年生命中最重要的一束光，也是我的好朋友，但在过去的一两年里，因为羞愧且自觉无奈的缘故，我用诸多在我们之间不构成理由的理由放过了很多次与他碰面的机会，也不再频繁通电话。他时不时会贴心地把我点穿，每次都一笑了之。今天受托德鼓舞，我终于有了要去明明白白“伤他心”的勇气。
       嗯，理清了五味杂陈的心情，我想我可以安心去睡了。

这是一部关于战争与和平的电影，这是一部关于生命与信仰的电影，这是一部关于坚持与放弃的电影，这是一部关于理想与现实的电影，这是一部关于勇于站出来说话的电影，这是一部号称这个星球上最帅但还没得过奥斯卡的阿汤哥投钱，一个奥斯卡最佳男演员最佳导演双料得主罗伯特雷德福导演，又请来了这个星球上最会演的不知道得过多少次奥斯卡的梅尔斯特里普，三个人一起合力出演的电影。
 
单听这些“这是”，你就可以确定，这是一部不能不看的电影。
 
可是，当我们到达电影院，才知道，这是，一部没有字幕的电影……
 
于是，这成了我们大家人生当中，最受打击，也是看的最无聊的电影。
 
这部电影的主要人物，有六个，分别在三个不同的地点，阿汤哥跟梅尔斯特里普，是在一间办公室里，罗伯特雷德福跟他的学生，也是在一间办公室里……一个黑人哥们儿跟一个拉丁哥们儿，在一个鸟不拉屎的雪山上。这部电影得梗概，就是他们不停的对话，于是，这部电影就这样开始了……
 
然后，这部电影就这样结束了。
 
其间，阿汤哥始终没离开他的办公室，他的整部戏都在他的办公室里，这部戏里，他最大的动作就是脱掉了他的外套，他第二大的动作，是又把他的外套穿上了……当然，这期间他还去办公室的里屋打了一个电话，这就给了梅尔斯特里普充分的个人表演空间。想到《世界大战》跟《牒中牒3》，看来拍片挣钱跟拍片砸钱所需付出的劳动量果然不一样。
 
再说导演罗伯特雷德福先生，他的劳动量中等，首先，他的办公室没有里屋，这就限制了他的发挥，他在开始对话前的第一件事也是脱掉了外套，咱年纪虽大却也不能输给靓汤，在他结束谈话前，他的最后一个动作是穿上了外套，好像这是导演一个非常有创造性的设计，另外，尽管他整部戏也没走出办公室，但他还出现在了两个场景，都是回忆的，一个是课堂上，一个在饭店里，由此可见，雷德福还是很累的，因为，要出三个场景……
 
最后是这个星球上最会演的梅尔斯特里普，她是这部戏里最劳累的人，首先，她打的去找阿汤哥，在办公室里进行了长达一小时的谈话，接着，她竟然又打的回到了她的办公室，跟另一个人进行了五分钟的谈话，当然，这期间她也不能避免的脱掉了外套，这部戏好像是在告诉我们巨星在电影里面都会脱掉外套，当然，我们没有看见她穿上，但是，据可靠证据推断，我们可以断定她穿上了，因为在下一个场景里面，她又打的了，在车上她的外套穿在她身上……
 
总起来说，这部电影还是不错的，虽然除了我之外的其余六个人全都睡着了而我也基本没听懂说些什么，但这依然是一部很好的电影，我们度过了一个很愉快的下午。
 
对了，上面忘了介绍最重要的一句：这是一部肯定不会在中国大陆上映的电影。

this is absolutely more than just talking.
even though maybe just a tiny thing.
 
电影的场景和人物设置十分巧妙
私利大学 一个理想主义者的世界 教授在讲台上的夸夸其谈 和从小生长在无忧无虑的优越家庭中的孩子
robert redford说 你从小生长的环境让你享受了这一切 而你们却是在这样责任面前第一个退缩的 只想继续享受下去然后变成了这故作聪明 愤世嫉俗的一群
看不到的责任 故意放到一边的责任

战场 纯真而无辜牺牲的孩子
 no matter how many people have done the same thing
 no matter how much they did
  总会有人还想要去继续做同样的事情
因为他们觉得自己是不一样的人 所以得到的结果也就会不一样了 没有必要从之前的人们之中得到教训
 人总是这样 觉得自己并不与任何人相同 但是其实都没有什么太大的差别

政坛 从来都在利润和立场之间摇摆的媒体和摆弄口舌的仕途子弟 tom cruis的演技真是惊人 meryi streep也是天生的饰演文化人的好手 推荐去看 time 电影平淡 但是其一贯冷漠 不动声色的演技让人感叹

每一个人都被放在了恰当好处的位置 再加之精炼的对白 不单单是对于美国现实时事的种种审问和质疑 这部电影更可贵的是表述了每一方的观念和关系 无大讽刺 也无大情绪
就这样下来一部发人深思的电影 多角度的阐述一个国家的各个阶层之间的利害拉锯

关于这部电影我能说的太少太少 实在是太少太少
 

 
 
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